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Saying "No" to Fee Requests in RFPs

In tough economic times, being asked to submit a fee as part of an RFP can be an invitation to disaster. The hunger for work can lead a design professional to underbid a project and, if the job is secured, provide less than adequate design services. So how do you handle such requests for fees?

Following is a letter addressing this issue from Howard Dutzi, a committee member of the Structural Engineers Risk Management Council (SERMC), an organization of structural engineers who participate in the Structural Engineers Risk Control and Liability program (SERCL), a program of professional liability and risk management services provided by XL Design Professionals. This letter was sent to a design planning firm that requested a fee proposal as part of an RFP from Howard C. Dutzi & Associates, Inc., Colorado Springs, CO

Dear Mr. Doe:

Thank you for your kind invitation requesting that our firm submit a proposal for providing structural engineering services for the above referenced project. This is a project which we feel highly qualified to perform.

Unfortunately, we must decline your offer. Our firm has a policy not to submit a fee as part of a selection criteria. Although we feel that fee is important, we have found that it is difficult to arrive at a number at such an early date without a discussion with the client to determine their precise needs and expectations. Even though your RFP does a better than average job in outlining a scope, there are still many unknowns.

Several years ago, we discovered that one's professional approach to a project changes when fee becomes the criteria for selection. We soon realized that firms were submitting low fees necessary to get the job. This led to engineers finding ways of cutting their time on a project. This was accomplished by minimizing the level of service such as:

  • Selecting structural systems which are easiest to design as opposed to selecting a system which is the most economical to the owner.
  • Leaving much of the engineering design up to the contractor.
  • Designing the more heavily loaded members and repeating throughout.
  • Minimizing details and leaving it up to the contractor to develop.
  • Not providing checking during and at the end of the preparation of the contract documents. Failure to do so leads to more errors.
  • Providing minimal review of the shop drawings.

This list could go on and on. While we all need to be conscientious as to how we spend our time, doing so by methods indicated in this list is, in our opinion, foolhardy, does not serve the best interests of the client, and leads to a building costing more than is necessary.

In the past, we have considered going after projects based on price, but in discussing what we needed to do in order to develop a low fee, we soon came to the realization that we were suddenly and primarily representing our own best interests and not those of our client. We were talking about methods of "short-cutting" rather than concentrating on how we could, to the best of our ability, serve our client. We recognized that we need to be responsive to our client's needs, produce an economical structural design, and provide documents which are complete, clear and will lead toward more competitive pricing and will also minimize the time of the people who need to interpret and work off of them. It is our philosophy that we must represent the best interest of our client.

It has been our feeling that we should first be selected on the basis of our qualifications, our ability to do the job, and how we can fit in and be a viable member of the team. If we meet this criteria, we should then discuss everyone's needs and arrive at a fair fee that will meet everyone's expectations. If such a fee cannot be developed, we shake hands, part as friends, and hope we will be invited for consideration on your next project.

We hope that you understand our position and that perhaps sometime we can be of service. Meanwhile, best of luck on this project. It sounds exciting and is the type of project we would have enjoyed participating in. It should be a real asset to the community.

Very truly yours,
Howard C. Dutzi, P.E.

And now the rest of the story: You may be surprised by the outcome of this letter. Velma Lane of Van Gilder Insurance Corporation, Mr. Dutzi's XL Design Professional agent, writes:

Mr. Dutzi called me and said that the firm actually did get back in touch with him. They said Mr. Dutzi's firm was exactly the type of firm that with which they wish to develop a long term relationship. Further, the person preparing the RFP was actually the owner's representative and really was not up to speed on the selection criteria for structural engineers. The firm has asked Howard to submit a proposal (without fee) and, as they go through the selection process, it was their hope that Mr. Dutzi would be the firm selected to perform the structural services on the project.